No to Lisbon Treaty - Europa Libera Comments http://notolisbontreaty.blogsome.com Solidarity with Ireland's NO to Lisbon treaty - Solidarité avec le NON de Irlande au traité de Lisbonne - Solidariedade com o NÃO da Irlanda ao Tratado de Lisboa - Solidaridad con el NO de Irlanda al tratado de Lisboa - Solidarität mit den irischen NICHT zum der Vertrag von Lissabon - Solidarietà con la NON d'Irlanda il trattato di Lisbona - Solidariteit met de Ierse NO naar Lissabon verdrag - Solidaritet med Irlands NEJ til Lissabon traktat - Solidaritet med Irlands NEJ till Lissabon-fördrag Sat, 05 Dec 2009 10:16:16 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=1.5.1-alpha by: mr d wooly england http://notolisbontreaty.blogsome.com/2008/05/15/the-irish-are-the-voice-of-all-citizens-of-europe/#comment-78 Fri, 06 Nov 2009 16:32:58 +0000 http://notolisbontreaty.blogsome.com/2008/05/15/the-irish-are-the-voice-of-all-citizens-of-europe/#comment-78 how did the irish vote no not stand no is no and i totaly agreed with them why should we have to abide by eu we were at war with most of them years past how can they be trusted now i say no and stick by it how did the irish vote no not stand no is no and i totaly agreed with them why should we have to abide by eu we were at war with most of them years past how can they be trusted now i say no and stick by it

]]> by: Jack http://notolisbontreaty.blogsome.com/2009/10/03/democracy-is-officially-dead-in-eu/#comment-76 Tue, 06 Oct 2009 07:44:52 +0100 http://notolisbontreaty.blogsome.com/2009/10/03/democracy-is-officially-dead-in-eu/#comment-76 Voter fraud caught on tape! Also, thousands on non-Irish citizens on voting roles. See video and article. http://blog.antilisbontreaty.com/2009/10/06/caught--vote-fraud-on-film--afghanistantype-fraud-on-lisbon-2-vote.aspx Voter fraud caught on tape! Also, thousands on non-Irish citizens on voting roles. See video and article.

http://blog.antilisbontreaty.com/2009/10/06/caught–vote-fraud-on-film–afghanistantype-fraud-on-lisbon-2-vote.aspx

]]> by: Sully http://notolisbontreaty.blogsome.com/2009/10/03/democracy-is-officially-dead-in-eu/#comment-75 Sun, 04 Oct 2009 18:24:37 +0100 http://notolisbontreaty.blogsome.com/2009/10/03/democracy-is-officially-dead-in-eu/#comment-75 You sensationalist. I agree that having to re-vote on an issue does make ours a hilarious parody of a true democracy, but when the first 'no' result came about as a result of misinformation and deception, I don't see how a second referendum signals the death knell of EU democracy. You sensationalist.

I agree that having to re-vote on an issue does make ours a hilarious parody of a true democracy, but when the first ‘no’ result came about as a result of misinformation and deception, I don’t see how a second referendum signals the death knell of EU democracy.

]]> by: robin http://notolisbontreaty.blogsome.com/2009/10/03/democracy-is-officially-dead-in-eu/#comment-73 Sun, 04 Oct 2009 11:54:58 +0100 http://notolisbontreaty.blogsome.com/2009/10/03/democracy-is-officially-dead-in-eu/#comment-73 So, the Irish decided to change their constitution in ways that were never explained to them by people who have been proven to be untrustworthy. Very sad. So, the Irish decided to change their constitution in ways that were never explained to them by people who have been proven to be untrustworthy. Very sad.

]]> by: am.ma http://notolisbontreaty.blogsome.com/2009/10/03/democracy-is-officially-dead-in-eu/#comment-72 Sun, 04 Oct 2009 00:18:09 +0100 http://notolisbontreaty.blogsome.com/2009/10/03/democracy-is-officially-dead-in-eu/#comment-72 It has crossed my mind before that there should be weapons' manufacturers behind this story. Enough big money, enough big power to achieve what they did achieve after all. The Irish will be known as the people who can say yes or no, depending on how much money they get from it. They themselves will probably be the ones to feel bad and guilty about it, soon or later and more than anybody else. It's not for us to judge their about-turn now. Their children, their grand-children, History will judge them. And will specilly judge the liders behind all this misery. And finally in the end, when money will matter nothing no more - something that people often pretend to ignore - the Lord will judge them. It has crossed my mind before that there should be weapons’ manufacturers behind this story. Enough big money, enough big power to achieve what they did achieve after all.
The Irish will be known as the people who can say yes or no, depending on how much money they get from it.
They themselves will probably be the ones to feel bad and guilty about it, soon or later and more than anybody else.
It’s not for us to judge their about-turn now.
Their children, their grand-children, History will judge them. And will specilly judge the liders behind all this misery.
And finally in the end, when money will matter nothing no more - something that people often pretend to ignore - the Lord will judge them.

]]> by: am.ma http://notolisbontreaty.blogsome.com/2009/10/01/sir-this-time-vote-no-for-me-please/#comment-70 Fri, 02 Oct 2009 10:17:31 +0100 http://notolisbontreaty.blogsome.com/2009/10/01/sir-this-time-vote-no-for-me-please/#comment-70 Uma excelente conclusão que encontrei ontem: <em>The Irish people are called upon to defend the rights of the Irish through saying NO to the Treaty of Lisbon. The Irish people have the last chance to defend freedom, equality and fraternity, democracy, the rule of law and the social welfare state for all peoples in the European Union. Without an Irish NO all people in Europe face exploitation, war and injustice. The Irish have the opportunity to save human dignity in Europe.</em> [in http://no2lisbon.net/2009/10/irish-arguments-against-lisbon-treaty.html] Lamentavelmente, parece que nos dias que correm o dinheiro fala mais alto que a dignidade. Uma excelente conclusão que encontrei ontem:
The Irish people are called upon to defend the rights of the Irish through saying NO to the Treaty of Lisbon. The Irish people have the last chance to defend freedom, equality and fraternity, democracy, the rule of law and the social welfare state for all peoples in the European Union. Without an Irish NO all people in Europe face exploitation, war and injustice. The Irish have the opportunity to save human dignity in Europe.
[in http://no2lisbon.net/2009/10/irish-arguments-against-lisbon-treaty.html]
Lamentavelmente, parece que nos dias que correm o dinheiro fala mais alto que a dignidade.

]]> by: M.Gruss from Wuppertal/ FRG http://notolisbontreaty.blogsome.com/2008/05/15/the-irish-are-the-voice-of-all-citizens-of-europe/#comment-68 Fri, 02 Oct 2009 08:01:38 +0100 http://notolisbontreaty.blogsome.com/2008/05/15/the-irish-are-the-voice-of-all-citizens-of-europe/#comment-68 With regard to Germany, the unprecedented decline of economic power and personal income(since 1998) due to the loss of the currency("Deutsche Mark") and therefor benefits of the export-surplus, the loss of parlamentary power over the budget and spending policy("Maastricht-Kriterien")and the retreat of the state in terms of controlling money transfers and hardcore-capitalistic investments- thus weakening social-systems, rising unemployment-rates and undermining the once worldwide leading constitutionally fixed and countrywide approved, socially backed economic system ("soziale Marktwirtschaft)- is nothing but a declaration of war to what we call "Einigkeit und Recht und Freiheit" the basics of our and any republic with free and equal citizens. Besides it destroys the so far achieved, which is up to around 1992,european cooperation:Now,us-style capitalism roules, the people is regarded as an obstacle for the allmighty (party-)leaders and our so called chancellor fails in getting the difference between the German Reunion and an irrational, dangerous and totalitary UDSSEU. Votez non a la constitution! Vive la republique!Vote no to Lisbon treaty and a single currency!!! With regard to Germany, the unprecedented decline of economic power and personal income(since 1998) due to the loss of the currency(”Deutsche Mark”) and therefor benefits of the export-surplus, the loss of parlamentary power over the budget and spending policy(”Maastricht-Kriterien”)and the retreat of the state in terms of controlling money transfers and hardcore-capitalistic investments- thus weakening social-systems, rising unemployment-rates and undermining the once worldwide leading constitutionally fixed and countrywide approved, socially backed economic system (”soziale Marktwirtschaft)- is nothing but a declaration of war to what we call “Einigkeit und Recht und Freiheit” the basics of our and any republic with free and equal citizens. Besides it destroys the so far achieved, which is up to around 1992,european cooperation:Now,us-style capitalism roules, the people is regarded as an obstacle for the allmighty (party-)leaders and our so called chancellor fails in getting the difference between the German Reunion and an irrational, dangerous and totalitary UDSSEU. Votez non a la constitution! Vive la republique!Vote no to Lisbon treaty and a single currency!!!

]]> by: tore toivicco http://notolisbontreaty.blogsome.com/2008/05/15/the-irish-are-the-voice-of-all-citizens-of-europe/#comment-67 Thu, 01 Oct 2009 12:22:58 +0100 http://notolisbontreaty.blogsome.com/2008/05/15/the-irish-are-the-voice-of-all-citizens-of-europe/#comment-67 Message to Ireland about Lisbon treaty: vote NO: Lisbon treaty seems to be totally strange and deleting democracy or human rights? http://conservativehome.blogs.com/centreright/2008/01/lisbon-treaty-c.html I’ve read an article which states that police gets rights to shoot people in some situations. These kind of things are totalitarian politics. It also probably stops right to go on strike. http://www.no2lisbon.ie/en/press-centre/entry/160 And all this in whole Europe … It is sad to notice that all other countries have accepted this treaty, but many governments have not even given people chance to vote about it. Irish government has given you this right,…anyway it is really strange that Ireland maybe votes again about this, and only after few months?(or 2009?) EU elite needs this YES, and they have ordered new voting? If this is true it shows how horrible secret elite rules EU, and what can we expect from the future? Lisbon treaty is basically giving ‘Gestapo’-laws to EU-government, if needed? And they seem to need those laws fast? Vote NO, and save the world? F.ex. in many european countries media and politicians has almost 100% ignored discussions about this subject, and people are not even aware about whole thing? It is also good to remember that USA has now similar ‘martial laws’ there, after 11th september 2001… ? EU security officials decide about all security matters of whole EU? Also there is some things which makes it very difficult for normal people to complain and get things corrected if there is wrongful handlings? I hope I am wrong, but this whole thing , and how it has been handled seems really wrong? And it is not a democratic way to handle politics.? http://www.europeanfoundation.org/docs/Treaty%20of%20Lisbon.htm ps. this writing may include errors. -Tore Toivicco — Now also EU web-cencorship? http://www.masternewmedia.org/europe-under-internet-censorship-threat-new-eu-telecom-package/ Give us back our democracy! — Besked om Lissabon-traktaten: Lissabon-traktaten synes at være helt mærkeligt og sletter demokrati eller menneskerettigheder? http://conservativehome.blogs.com/centreright/2008/01/lisbon-treaty-c.html politiet får ret til at skyde folk i nogle situationer? Disse slags ting er totalitære politik. Det sandsynligvis også stopper ret til at gå i strejke. http://www.no2lisbon.ie/en/press-centre/entry/160 Og alt dette i hele Europa … Det er trist at bemærke, at alle andre lande har godkendt denne traktat, men mange regeringer har ikke engang givet folk chancen for at stemme om det. Irske regering har givet dig denne ret, … alligevel det er virkelig mærkeligt, at Irland måske stemmer igen om dette, og først efter nogle måneder? (Eller 2009?) EU-eliten behov denne JA, og de har bestilt nye afstemningssystem? Hvis dette er sandt, som det ser ud, hvor forfærdelig hemmelighed elite regler EU, og hvad kan vi forvente af fremtiden? Lissabon-traktat er grundlæggende og giver ‘Gestapo’-lovgivning til EU-regering, hvis det er nødvendigt? Og de synes at have behov for disse love hurtigt? Stem nej, og red verden? Eksempel i mange europæiske lande, medier og politikere har næsten 100% ignoreres diskussioner om dette emne, og folk ikke engang er klar over alt? Det er også godt at huske på, at USA nu har lignende ‘martial lov’ der, efter den 11 september 2001 …? EU beslutter om alle sikkerhedsspørgsmål i hele EU? Der er også nogle ting, som gør det meget vanskeligt for almindelige mennesker til at klage og få tingene korrigeret, hvis der er ulovlige handlinger? Jeg håber, jeg tager fejl, men det hele, og hvordan den er blevet håndteret synes virkelig galt? Og det er ikke en demokratisk måde at håndtere politik.? http://www.europeanfoundation.org/docs/Treaty% 20of% 20Lisbon.htm ps. denne skrivelse kan indeholde fejl. -Tore Toivicco – Nu også EU web-cencorship? http://www.masternewmedia.org/europe-under-internet-censorship-threat-new-eu-telecom-package/ Giv os vores demokrati tilbage! Message to Ireland about Lisbon treaty: vote NO:

Lisbon treaty seems to be totally strange and deleting democracy or human rights?

http://conservativehome.blogs.com/centreright/2008/01/lisbon-treaty-c.html

I’ve read an article which states that police gets rights to shoot people in some situations.

These kind of things are totalitarian politics.

It also probably stops right to go on strike.

http://www.no2lisbon.ie/en/press-centre/entry/160

And all this in whole Europe …

It is sad to notice that all other countries have accepted this treaty, but many governments have not even given people chance to vote about it.

Irish government has given you this right,…anyway it is really strange that Ireland maybe votes again about this, and only after few months?(or 2009?)

EU elite needs this YES, and they have ordered new voting?

If this is true it shows how horrible secret elite rules EU, and what can we expect from the future?
Lisbon treaty is basically giving ‘Gestapo’-laws to EU-government, if needed?

And they seem to need those laws fast?

Vote NO, and save the world?

F.ex. in many european countries media and politicians has almost 100% ignored discussions about this subject, and people are not even aware about whole thing?

It is also good to remember that USA has now similar ‘martial laws’ there, after 11th september 2001… ?

EU security officials decide about all security matters of whole EU?

Also there is some things which makes it very difficult for normal people to complain and get things corrected if there is wrongful handlings?

I hope I am wrong, but this whole thing , and how it has been handled seems really wrong? And it is not a democratic way to handle politics.?

http://www.europeanfoundation.org/docs/Treaty%20of%20Lisbon.htm

ps. this writing may include errors.

-Tore Toivicco

—

Now also EU web-cencorship?

http://www.masternewmedia.org/europe-under-internet-censorship-threat-new-eu-telecom-package/

Give us back our democracy!

—

Besked om Lissabon-traktaten:

Lissabon-traktaten synes at være helt mærkeligt og sletter demokrati eller menneskerettigheder?

http://conservativehome.blogs.com/centreright/2008/01/lisbon-treaty-c.html

politiet får ret til at skyde folk i nogle situationer?

Disse slags ting er totalitære politik.

Det sandsynligvis også stopper ret til at gå i strejke.

http://www.no2lisbon.ie/en/press-centre/entry/160

Og alt dette i hele Europa …

Det er trist at bemærke, at alle andre lande har godkendt denne traktat, men mange regeringer har ikke engang givet folk chancen for at stemme om det.

Irske regering har givet dig denne ret, … alligevel det er virkelig mærkeligt, at Irland måske stemmer igen om dette, og først efter nogle måneder? (Eller 2009?)

EU-eliten behov denne JA, og de har bestilt nye afstemningssystem?

Hvis dette er sandt, som det ser ud, hvor forfærdelig hemmelighed elite regler EU, og hvad kan vi forvente af fremtiden?
Lissabon-traktat er grundlæggende og giver ‘Gestapo’-lovgivning til EU-regering, hvis det er nødvendigt?

Og de synes at have behov for disse love hurtigt?

Stem nej, og red verden?

Eksempel i mange europæiske lande, medier og politikere har næsten 100% ignoreres diskussioner om dette emne, og folk ikke engang er klar over alt?

Det er også godt at huske på, at USA nu har lignende ‘martial lov’ der, efter den 11 september 2001 …?

EU beslutter om alle sikkerhedsspørgsmål i hele EU?

Der er også nogle ting, som gør det meget vanskeligt for almindelige mennesker til at klage og få tingene korrigeret, hvis der er ulovlige handlinger?

Jeg håber, jeg tager fejl, men det hele, og hvordan den er blevet håndteret synes virkelig galt? Og det er ikke en demokratisk måde at håndtere politik.?

http://www.europeanfoundation.org/docs/Treaty% 20of% 20Lisbon.htm

ps. denne skrivelse kan indeholde fejl.

-Tore Toivicco

–

Nu også EU web-cencorship?

http://www.masternewmedia.org/europe-under-internet-censorship-threat-new-eu-telecom-package/

Giv os vores demokrati tilbage!

]]> by: dom pedro do dublin http://notolisbontreaty.blogsome.com/2009/09/28/one-more-appeal-to-the-irish-no-on-the-referendum/#comment-63 Wed, 30 Sep 2009 22:35:04 +0100 http://notolisbontreaty.blogsome.com/2009/09/28/one-more-appeal-to-the-irish-no-on-the-referendum/#comment-63 sim, vou pensar nisso ja escrevei sobre o assunto no meu website A Bedtime Story for all Nice Children and not so Maastricht Adults http://ceolas.net/#eu7x The Happy Family Once upon a time there was a family treaty-ing themselves to a visit in Lisbon. On the sunny day that it was they decided to go out together. Everyone had to agree on what they would do. “So”, said Daddy Brusselsprout “Let’s all go for a picnic!” “No”, said Aunt Erin, “I don’t want to”. Did they then think of something else, that they might indeed agree on? Oh yes they did? Oh no they didn’t! Daddy Brusselsprout asked all the others anyway, isolating Erin, and then asked her if instead, she would like to go with them to the park and eat out of a lunch basket…. Kids, we’ll finish this story tomorrow, and remember, in the EU yes means yes and no means yes as well! . sim, vou pensar nisso
ja escrevei sobre o assunto no meu website

A Bedtime Story for all Nice Children and not so Maastricht Adults

http://ceolas.net/#eu7x

The Happy Family

Once upon a time there was a family treaty-ing themselves to a visit in Lisbon.
On the sunny day that it was they decided to go out together.
Everyone had to agree on what they would do.
“So”, said Daddy Brusselsprout “Let’s all go for a picnic!”
“No”, said Aunt Erin, “I don’t want to”.
Did they then think of something else, that they might indeed agree on?
Oh yes they did?
Oh no they didn’t!
Daddy Brusselsprout asked all the others anyway, isolating Erin, and then asked her if instead, she would like to go with them to
the park and eat out of a lunch basket….

Kids, we’ll finish this story tomorrow, and remember, in the EU yes means yes and no means yes as well!
.

]]> by: am.ma http://notolisbontreaty.blogsome.com/2009/09/23/jose-manuel-durao-barroso-maoist-days/#comment-62 Mon, 28 Sep 2009 16:45:49 +0100 http://notolisbontreaty.blogsome.com/2009/09/23/jose-manuel-durao-barroso-maoist-days/#comment-62 No matter the tide, he is floating! Just did a post on the new referendum in Ireland - most of it is in English - in my (Portuguese) blog: http://aimagemdapaisagem.nireblog.com/post/2009/09/28/274-outra-vez-a-irlanda-ireland-again No matter the tide, he is floating!
Just did a post on the new referendum in Ireland - most of it is in English - in my (Portuguese) blog:
http://aimagemdapaisagem.nireblog.com/post/2009/09/28/274-outra-vez-a-irlanda-ireland-again

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